truthsmiles- Okay, so this video has way more views than I ever expected! I've read the comments and want to address a few things:1. First, for all of the positive comments, thanks - you guys are awesome! And yes, I came up with the idea myself :-)2. For those of you saying I should have roll-started the tractor, please understand that I definitely would have done so if I could. The problem is that a tractor uses hydraulics to lift the front bucket off the ground. The hydraulics don't work unless the engine is running, so roll-starting is out of the question as the front bucket would have dug into the ground. I MAY have been able to pull it backwards, but it would be hard to convince me that wouldn't have been even more dangerous. 3. Yes, messing around with the PTO is incredibly dangerous. I don't recommend it for anyone, including myself. However, people are going to try stuff like this whether we like it or not, and I thought that if I could find an even SEMI-safe way to do it, I should share it with the world. You never know when someone has a real emergency and could use the knowledge. In any case, I feel that helping people UNDERSTAND the world around them is always a positive thing, so if nothing else, you've seen it done and maybe learned something about tractors.4. Yes, the video is probably too long. I rambled and explained a lot. We did this in one take and I didn't edit at all. Sorry 'bout that - I honestly never expected more than about 50 views!So, thanks again to everyone for your comments. If you learned ANYTHING (even if it was "I'll never do that!"), the video was a success! Cheers! :-)
Turbo Diesel- Great idea. Enjoyed your video, and love your assistant - she's a cutie - LOL! Seriously though, this is wicked unsafe for the average moron. I definitely recommend NOT doing this for about 99% of the population. Best thing you can do is just repair/replace your engine's electric starter (or whatever the problem is). Let's face it... if you can't afford to fix your tractor the correct way, you probably have no business owning one anyhow. Really doesn't matter who you are.With that said... I like your ability to "think outside the box". It's what makes things happen in this world. As the saying goes... "Necessity is the mother of all invention". True words. One thing you may not know about tractors is that this method of starting will not work on all of them. It will only work on some. Since around the mid 1950's - 1960's, many tractors have PTO's that are hydraulically operated (a hydraulic PTO clutch engages and disengages it). They also have hydraulically released PTO brakes which prevent the PTO shaft from spinning when it is turned off. Especially most larger and higher horsepower tractors in the 50 to 300Hp range.There are typically 3 different types of tractor PTO's. There are: 1.) Independent. 2.) Live. and 3.) Standard (non-live).In most cases, the only tractors that your method of "reverse" starting (via the PTO shaft) will work on is a tractor with a "live" mechanically actuated/driven PTO or a standard mechanically actuated/driven PTO. This is also assuming that your tractor has a standard transmission and not a fully hydrostatic or hydraulic shifting transmission (often called a power-shift or something of the like). Again, it will still ultimately depend what drive design of PTO that tractor has.1.) An independent PTO is one in which can be turned on and off totally separately from the engine and transmission clutch. They are typically hydraulically clutched, and are typically the most advanced and desirable for any tractor. They may be mechanically or electro-hydraulically activated. They slowly became more and more prevalent after the mid 1950's.2.) A live PTO (aka: 2-stage clutch) is a PTO in which the clutch pedal acts as a way to engage and disengage both the transmission as well as the rear powershaft (PTO). Pressing 1/2 way down on the clutch pedal gives you the ability to disengage the transmission from the engine only, while allowing the PTO to remain powered by the engine. Pressing the clutch pedal down fully to the floor plate allows for the transmission AND the PTO to both become disengaged from the engine power, by actuating both the transmission and the PTO clutches at the same time. Seems that many compact and utility tractors in the 20 to 50 Hp range have these "live" types of PTO's. These live PTO's were (and still are) more common than independent PTO's because they are cheaper to manufacture and sell.3.) A standard (non-live) PTO is one in which the transmission clutch engages the PTO as well. They are the least desirable PTO design, and are found in nearly every tractor built prior to the mid/late 1950's. Because only one clutch is used, the PTO will only spin when the transmission clutch is fully engaged. If you disengage the clutch to stop the transmission, you will stop the PTO as well. Standard PTO's are typically engaged and disengaged by a mechanical lever, which offers a direct connection to the engine/transmission clutch. They are kind of a pain in the ass to use.Hope you enjoyed my brief synopsis of "PTO 101". LOL :-)
MaxxFordham- Dude, I'd love to try this (being the tractor "driver")!Your female assistant should drive the car (with automatic transmission) while you MANage the MANual clutch on the tractor! :) Oh, your car's a stick too, so she'd have to handle a MANual clutch anyway. Plppppthhhh....I like that your car's manual too, though! So is my blue 2001 Dodge Dakota truck.
RandomActsOfGaming- Cool how diesels don't seem to really need a battery once they're running. Engine wise at least, I was thinking you were an idiot when you were wrapping that around there with a knot that could get caught and kill you, using a car makes much more sense. Nice vid
YLW Pyro- I always wondered if you could start up a tractor via the PTO, and now I found the answer- apparently you can. Thank you for sharing!
Jesse Klaus- This is good backwoods knowledge but you know some new to the farm city boy is going to try this, screw up the pull wrap and wind his Prius around the PTO.. that or some drunken hillbilly is going to tie that thing to their truck nuts and rip their PTO shaft off - either way it'll be amusing to see if they put it on youtube.
Diesel Ramcharger- you don't need the knot in the strap. otherwise good to go.
Thomas Hull- NEVER, NEVER, EVER DO THAT, I am 15 and a 13 old kid was killed by a pto powered hay tool in my county. PLEASE USE COMMON SENSE AROUND PTO EQIPMENT, AND ALWAYS TUR OFF THE PTO OR TRACTOR BEFORE YOU GET OFF THE TRACTOR.
MF175mp- that's not a tractor. Buy a 50-years old Deere or Massey and you can say your vehicle a tractor. this is a garden crusher.
John Siders- That would work only with a dual live or non live PTO Like on a old 8N ford ect This tractor must have a selective PTO like my Massey Ferguson 237 diesel Never thought of this before !
bendikatv- 540 has more torque but the 1000 has more rpm/speed. same as 1st gear has more torque and 2nd gear has more speed
MaxxFordham- LOL, so you're "rope-starting" a modern tractor! Haha!
powerram92- this guy is really a dumb ass what redneck doesnt have a truck
Mackeson3- Or you could just tow start it......
Schmecklebak Melvin- It got that many views because people with common sense couldn't believe you would do something so stupid and dangerous. Guess you have never seen someone who got tangled up in a PTO shaft. Ugly to look at
HoffmanLivestock- That was pretty good idea you had there. Thanks for sharing. As far as getting tangled up on the PTO if they know enough to be able to tell what one looks like they should know how to be careful around them.
Phillip Mogford- A load of ballshitThe PTO shaft can't start a tractor. The PTO is oil driven and is not connected to the engine And then when you "roll start " you don't let the clutch out slowly you let it out suddenly.I know this cos I live on a farm and have bump started a tractor many times
Monhaut Holsteins- Did you hook that to a honda civic hahaha
DesertDigger1- Sounds like the starter is stuck!,Why didn't you have your wife engage the key while you tap on the starter? This equipment looks way to new or used very little to be having problems like this.They've flooded the market with these junk Korean tractors.
sstroh08- this will only work with smaller tractors dont try on a bigger one the PTO works differently on them, most are driven hydralically and obviously they dont disengage with the clutch pedal and likely will just break something, neat idea though
robert rinehart- Only if someones life depended on starting the tractor....
Maxx Fordham- +Phillip Mogford says, "+MaxxFordham in don't care about you and this post it gonna be dead in a moSo shut the bloody hell up."Oh, and then you block replies to your thread too, huh? Why? Because you're so much of an imbecile that you can't stand it when someone uses indisputable proof to show you why you were wrong?Oh, and what kind of place is "don't care about" (as referred to by your word "in")?
Charlie Berry- Pull it? Why not? LOL
Rory McLaren- With all due respect............think long and hard before you make any attempt to interfere with the power take off (PTO) on any machine. A young man, a friend of mine, at the age of 23, got tangled in a tractor PTO. It ripped both his arms out of their sockets, and crushed both legs: one of which is amputated above the knee. An attempt to reattach one arm failed.He will NEVER embrace his wife or children with loving arms, play ball with his son, play snakes and ladders with his daughter, or feed himself.The PTO will always win!
Marida Cruz- Never had to attempt this on a farm tractor, now have done it to many garden tractors lol id be too afraid of breakin something on a farm tractor just my thought. But never know when one may have to do this to get the tractor home from a field, neva can predict when an electrical part can go out great video man :D
Sam King- Apparently this tractor doesn't have live power take-off?
Hazman67- Nice work fella, don't listen to the haters. At the end of the day, you got the disabled vehicle running again. Everyone will also have their own "old indian magic trick" and every machine/situation might require a different approach to get a resolution. This particular method wouldn't work on my machines due to heir hydraulic PTO engagement . I would have been temped to relieve the hydrualic system of it pressure and bypass/vent the loader rams in order to jack it up (with farm jack) enough to bu,p start a manual if I was unable to get the starter cranking by shorting it and offering it some encouragement with a hammer (you'd be surprised how many seized starters manage to free up with a few well place hammer taps during attempted cranking. Many of of smaller machine have hydrostatic drive which is a really curse when you have a flat battery/broken down machine as before you can even recover/tow the machine you have to bypass the Hydro tranny if you can run the engine. I don't normally take the time to comment on youtube as I feel too many people are too quick to cuss on each. People in this day and age seem happier to ram their opinions into the world without considering the possibility that somebody else idea might just work. There may have been other ways to get the job done, but from my point of view the machine is running, he has all his fingers and he can get back to work/making money - on a commercial setup like mine that's all that matters. Peace out from Sunny northern England
Rich T- dangerous yes but certainly using your head in a way that can get you started without immediate access to a new starter solenoid/motor good job!!
Dan Wagar- Only thing right about this Video is the Girl on the tractor!!
FixItStupid- TAP On the starter it's in a dead spot
ffjsb- This is the reason there are so many warning labels on equipment. And why us paramedics have job security...
Kntryhart- Excellent! When you are between a rock and a hard place, you need to think outside the box!
Elizabeth Seabrook- Just let the woman do it, typical man
Nathan Wilson- Neat trick. Old John Deere's (the old 1930's tractors that didn't have electric start) have some aftermarket kits where you can put a flywheel on the PTO shaft with a ring gear and an electric starter. Works well. Allows some of the older farmers who have trouble hand starting the old John Deeres still enjoy their tractors.
SLORRIFJART321- Well done.In the end we heard the engine running, and we saw the shaft spinning.
Ricky Willis- Good job and something I hadn't really thought of but nice to know
Demetry Romanowski- The PTO Has to be solid coupler pto shaft to do this, if you have a big tractor usually they have a hydraulic clutch and coupler which wont work, and if you have another tractor you can always lift up the bucket and chain it up then "bump" start it. but the easiest way is to just remove and repair the starter...
Ian Thompson- I like it! Giant pull start! For some of you fools who didn't get why he feathered the clutch on the car! and didn't just dump it, because he didn't want to yank anything apart! duh! of course if you bump start the tractor you dump the clutch, not what he was saying at all...
BRIAN OBERHOLTZER- WORKS BEST IF YOU HAVE A PTO PIECE OF EQUIPMENT HOOKED UP BEFORE THE STARTER TAKES A SHIT
Trav- Something to keep in my bag of tricks, never know when might can use this knowledge, and yes, your assistant is very lovely